In this episode of Summer of Stories, host Gabrielle Gwyneth interviews Dr. Carrie Graham about her journey as a trailblazer in adult learning theory and training development. Dr. Graham shares the story of how she went bungee jumping in Australia (despite it not being on her bucket list) to encourage basketball players to take the leap, illustrating her philosophy of never asking clients to do something she wouldn't do herself. The conversation explores her transition from healthcare to education to consulting, driven by frustration with ineffective training programs she experienced as both participant and educator. Dr. Graham discusses her experience as often being the only person of color in professional settings, including her PhD program, and how this shaped her internal dialogue and approach to navigating corporate environments. She explains how adult learning theory, originally developed by Malcolm Knowles, applies differently to diverse communities and requires understanding end users beyond demographics. The discussion covers her three core elements of effective learning: engagement (getting attention and helping people connect with material), retention (ensuring they remember what they've learned), and application (providing opportunities to practice and apply skills). Dr. Graham emphasizes that effective training development requires extensive conversations about end users rather than focusing solely on content creation. She shares how her faith supports her business decisions and risk-taking, and discusses the financial and reputational risks organizations face when they don't invest properly in strategic training development. The episode concludes with insights about AI's role in adult learning and the irreplaceable value of understanding organizational culture and individual learner needs.
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Dr. Graham emphasizes that effective training development must begin with extensive understanding of end users as complete human beings rather than just demographic categories, requiring cultural sensitivity and recognition that adult learning theory applies differently across diverse communities. She advocates for leaders who are willing to go first in demonstrating vulnerability and risk-taking, understanding that love and care for clients or employees must be central to creating meaningful learning experiences that achieve true engagement, retention, and practical application.
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